I’ll check with Robert and add his reply as soon as I hear back from him.
Love
Kashonia

I am 27 years old. Reading this post about the symptoms of “ascension” has resonated with me. I have had all these symptoms. I have wondered at the synchronicity of so many losses at once. I have wondered why the slate was swept so clean. I do not have answers. It has been a pretty rough 2 years. I have had to send my ego to the backseat to survive. I have thrown my hands up in the air and accepted what I have no control over.

I have noticed that after all these changes I do not have the energy for actions that are not in line with what I believe and what I truly want. I literally feel the energy leaving my body when I start to move in a direction that is not in line with my truth. Right now, I just go with the flow- it is all I have energy for.

I found this article to be particularly fascinating because as Karen discussed the physical symptoms of “ascension,” I realized I had experienced many of these symptoms and wondered if what I was feeling could be part of this shift. I am a transformational coach, an entrepreneur, jewelry designer, singer and Reiki Master. I also have an MBA from Harvard Business School. I searched for my purpose for many years and then a few years ago I KNEW that my purpose was to help others find theirs. I’ve been melding all of my talents and “gifts” for over 30 years in preparation to help others find their special purpose. I am continually developing customized processes for my clients which I use myself. Although I was aware this new consciousness was taking place, I wasn’t fully aware of all the associated physical symptoms.

I want to tell you about a dream I had last autumn because it directly relates to this topic of ascension and I think it might help those within your network who are experiencing personal or professional difficulty. It was not a nightmare but it was dark… I was climbing the steps of a dark tower. There was no light in the tower. I had almost reached the top when I decided to go back down. I was a little hesitant and sad to turn back. After all, I had climbed all this way. I was trying to get to the light but something held me back and urged me to return to the bottom. Then I realized I had left the people I loved behind and I had to bring them with me. I didn’t want to reach the top by myself. I wanted my family and friends to be with me when I got to the top. I had to go back down and bring them back up with me.

When I awoke, I thought about this dream and its possible significance in my life. I realized the work I’m doing is perfectly timed in my life to help bring others into a new consciousness as well. It’s not just about me or my purpose, it never has been. It’s about being part of a bigger puzzle. Each of us is an important part of that puzzle with a special role to play. We are all intricately connected. Any missing piece effects the whole puzzle. That particular dream last autumn inspired me to “play” bigger and share my gifts and talents with more people. Because I have a growing family, I’d been growing my healing jewelry business slowly and was doing some healing and coaching, but suddenly I was inspired to expand my coaching business to reach more people. I became more motivated to reach out and connect with others in ways I had never attempted before. As I began to do this, I began to see that as my energetic vibration was increasing and shifting, it was shifting others too. So my husband’s and children’s and friends’ and clients’ attitude and vibration also began to shift just by being around me.

The reason I tell you all this is because even those of us who have been working in the healing fields can find this process a little unsettling when it affects us personally and affects those around us too. We think we’ve arrived and something happens to “gift” us with another lesson in climbing the stairs. I’ve learned to take these unsettling experiences in stride and simply say,”Hmm, I wonder what gift is in this experience for me?” I usually get an answer in some form or another, whether it’s a thought, an email, a telephone call or an article in the news. I urge my family, friends and clients to ask themselves the same thing. I try to be an observer and I coach my clients and friends to take the time to act from a higher inner guidance or inspiration. This process has prompted me to talk more openly with my family, friends and clients about what’s happening in the economy and globally from an energetic and spiritual perspective They are so grateful to know that they’re not going crazy; it is part of a bigger picture. There are specific things they can do too, specific actions they can take to smooth out the experiences and learn from them as a willing participant as opposed to a reluctant victim. In other words, you don’t have to sit on the sidelines and watch as things “happen” to you. You can take back some control in your life and learn to navigate through it and with harmony and joy. It all starts with the way you think about things.

So the point of this post is to encourage your network: Don’t be afraid to talk about the things going on in your life, even if it’s embarrassing to talk about your finances or your job or your relationships. Seek out help from others. Chances are, someone you know has already gone thorough this. You can learn from their experience. You owe it to yourself to begin to trust yourself, to take care of yourself because you are the only one who lives your life. Share your stories with others because in doing so, you not only help yourself, you also help your friends and family “shift” to a different perspective. You help them make that shift to a new consciousness. You help them connect with something more expansive. You give them hope and peace of mind too. Every bit of it makes a difference and we all move up together even if it’s one baby step at a time.

Blessings, Kathryn McKinnon

My introduction to David Neagle’s work was via the God-like praise that Alexandria Brown bestowed upon David Neagle. One of her more amazing comments was “if there was a church of David Neagle I’d join up”.

As far as using your “friends in high places” to get my money back. Thank you for the offer, but I wrote my money off to experience a long while ago. Once David Neagle got his lawyer on to me, who offered me a DVD as compensation, I knew that there would be no money.

A FEW POINTS NEED ADDRESSING

I need to offer a few points here, though about some of the things that you’ve said – in no particular order.
1. Yes I am more than happy for people to add to the genuine trainer and those to avoid. However, I think we need to also include evidence for including people on such a list.

2. As an example, to say with any credibility that Fabienne Fredrickson is someone to avoid. I think there needs to be more evidence than just the fact that she didn’t give out a binder. And yes, a lot of people do tend to cry and “blame” others at workshops such as these. So I guess what I’m getting down to is to do what I did with my comments about Experiencing the Reality of Success.

Present the promises that were made. And then your experience at how these promises were either just not kept. Or were totally misleading.

So perhaps your comment that you were “promised million dollar mindset breakthroughs and all I got was well NOTHING” is something that should at least ring loud bells for other people thinking about the workshop.

3. Interesting that you add Alexandria Brown’s name to the list. I heard a very interesting and heart-felt story only a week or two ago about someone who did a one day coaching program with someone who remained nameless. The person telling the story said that she paid $12,000 for the 1 day, one-to-one coaching program and left in tears. She complained about what had happened as asked for her money back. But the organisation concerned would not listen to her complaints.

As I said she did NOT mention the name of the person. However, who ever that person was, everything about the one-day coaching program that she described was exactly the same as the one day program that Alexandria was offering. I know because at one stage I looked very closely into doing the 1-2-1 coaching with Ali Brown.

4. There are many, many, multi-millionaire coaches out there who have made their money and the EXPENSE of the vulnerable.

Just look at James Ray – see comments #42 and #43 and #57/#58 above. People died as a result of the shameful practices of James Ray at his workshop. Yes these people have go to be stopped.

5. And maybe some of them have been stopped. As an example David Neagle and the Experience the Reality of Success workshop. I think that David Neagle has stopped doing Experience the Reality of Success.

From the beginning, David held 2 Experience the Reality of Success workshops each year.
By the time my blog post came out last year, he was already promoting the October last year event. But since then there has not been a mention of the workshop from his camp. The Experience The Reality website is still there, but it looks like a deserted shop that’s closed down. Sure it has a couple of videos on it but no mention of a workshop.

So maybe, just maybe this post has resulted, either directly via the FTC, or indirectly, has resulted in David Neagle putting an end to his misleading and unethical workshop.

6. Last year I did a rough calculation based on the private emails I’d received and also the posts from people who said that they had intended to do the workshop and now won’t. And I estimate that my post would have cost him well in excess of $100,000 in lost revenue. All because he wouldn’t give me my initial request of $4000 back. What a foolish, and ARROGANT man. But then we know that : – )

And yet, as I said in my post, this is the man who is teaching others, yes like Fabienne, to be top business people.

Again, as I said in my post, my greatest fear is that his student’s will turn out to be just as unethical as he is.

7. To be fair, if I am to leave Kristen & David Morelli and Suze Orman on the list, I should at least know what they have done that is unethical. Otherwise I am being unethical.

8. Just one last point “Spiritually Charged”, it is most important that when we take a stand, as you’ve done, and criticise others that we have the courage of our convictions and are upfront about who we are and that we don’t hide behind a pseudonym. Sadly, all of our good work can be in vein if we are not prepared to say who we really are.

Thank you for your time and your comments. And I’d be most interested to hear your stories behind the other names on your list.

Take Care
Love
Kashonia

I can’t BELIEVE that David Neagle would do this. I considered recently joining his “Recession Rescue with Rapid Results Program” but I will not consider it any longer.

I found out about David Neagle through Fabienne Fredrickson who is one of David’s students. I purchased some of Fabienne’s stuff and it was interesting and offered some fairly good marketing related suggestions, nothing earth shattering though.

After following Fabienne for about a year, reading and studying her materials I decided to attend her Marketing Mindset Breakthroughs Workshop in CT. It was a good workshop and fairly good live marketing advice. BUT AGAIN!!! nothing Earth Shattering.

After attending her event in CT. I continued to follow her, and was invited to attend her Inner Game of Abundance Workshop. And WOW!!!! was I disappointed.

I went to Miami (FT Lauderale) for the workshop, spent about 25k, and was promised millionaire dollar mindset breakthroughs and all I got was well NOTHING.

OK, not true. I watched a bunch of people CRY a lot, about there childhood etc, and I watched people talk about there non-supported spouses. I listened to a lot of WOO-HOOOS, and Screaming from Fabienne’s mouth and everyones excitement because she was excited.

I stayed in the beautiful Trump Plaza, and I got to hear David Neagle speak about what was on “The Art of Success” which I absolutely LOVE!!

But this is where it all broke open for me.

I’m being scammed and they want me to feel good about it.

This was Fabienne’s FIRST EVER Mindset Retreat. It was actually entitled “Inner Game of Abundance”. Because it was her first retreat on the subject, she didn’t even give us a binder.

I was so pissed by this, that it has really turned me off in the personal development space, and or manifestation.

So here’s my questions
#1 How do we expose all of these crooks?
# 2 How can we get with legit people who can help you manifest and grow in all areas of your life that you will personally endorse, and
# 3 where are the money making opportunities in business right now.

I am pleased to say I didn’t spend my last dime on Fabienne’s Workshops and or David Neagle’s materials,

HOWEVER!!!!!!! I have spoken to several people that did, and I am heart broken for them, its time to EXPOSE, EXPOSE, EXPOSE.

So with your permission I would like to create a list of all the fakers.

And a list of the good people in the personal development space, and have people give there real life experience – good or bad – and let these experiences be lessons that are growable moments, so people don’t continue to go down rabbit holes, in their personal developement journey.

Lastly, I can help you get your money back from David Neagle’s camp.

I have some friends in high places.

So anyone who TRULY lost money anywhere I can help. Thats all I’m willing to say on a public blog, but I’m sincere as I can be with what I just said. (I can help anyone who needs help recovering anything)

Lastly! Kashonia, let’s give some good resources and places people can go to get there life going NOW at rocket speed in 2010. God Bless.

Here’s my list of BAD (Personal Development Coaches) (Deceptive)

1. David Neagle
2. Fabienne Fredrickson
3. Alexandria Brown
4. Kristen & David Morelli
5. Suze Orman
6.

Let’s grow this list and Kashonia’s blog. You are great!!!

As I mentioned, it certainly confirmed for me that I must follow my eco-spirituality path as soon as I can.

And as you’ve highlighted, just imagine what our world would be like if the millions who’ve seen the film even made the slightest spiritual change in their lives.
We really would be moving to Pandora on here on Earth.
Love
Kashonia